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Steadyed's (Greg's) Journal; Start= Nov 11,2017

  1. #181
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    When do you go to Ireland?

    FAT and protein are the keys into ketosis. Water is needed often because we do not have the carbs that trap water in the body. I would like all new low carbers to start at zero carbs and then add back in slowly, but when we start eating LC we are still thinking that we need veges. And to tell the truth, until we are in deep ketosis, it can take a week or even two, we need to fill up with fewer calories. Maybe the time to go full on Zero carb is after we are in ketosis and hunger is a thing of the past.

    It is such a radical change in our diet that we also try to find ways to “replace” foods that we ate. Like cheesy broccoli, cauliflower faux potatoes, zucchini noodles and muffin in a minute to replace bread. Now, for me, a super great meal is 1/2 an avo, a few sautéed onions and a great steak. Oh my gosh, that is my favorite!!! I love my nuts as well, but I eat pecans and macadamias so the carb count is low. All in all, I am not zero carb, but about 20 or less a day. (Cream in my coffee, onions, avos, nuts) I know I can eat this way for the rest of my life 99% of the time. When I am with family, or maybe try a new recipe, I eat a few more veges.

    It is very important for us to find a menu that will fulfill our physical and psychological hunger so we can eat this way forever. You are doing this right now. It is not a fast process but extremely important. Good work.
    I am Arlene and Dr Mary Vernon says it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaquSijXJkQ for me. I used to stand under my plum tree waiting for the fruit to ripen and fall, now I stand near a coconut tree.
    "Let me have men about me that are fat, sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights. Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous." William Shakespeare ++++++++++++ I pray, let me one of the dangerous.

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    Give us an update when ya can Greg
    Hope all is going well for you!

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    Thanks, ZeroCarb and Aradasky, Just back from an OA meeting on Sat morning. This is a helpful live group for me. We spend lots of time talking about triggers and tools; what a coincidence. I am now abstinent from Carbs according to my plan for a week now and just want to give you both a shout-out for your warm welcome back. Wish I had not left, but that is in the past. Today is today. Just do the next right thing! I finished up my first week's radiation treatments for prostate cancer and I am doing great. I have a very favorable prognosis and count my blessings for that. A nurse dietician there told me to expect to gain weight because I am also on a hormone treatment that eliminates testosterone (prostate cancer food). I told her to expect me to lose weight! She liked my lowCarb/No carb food plan and gave me encouragement. They have to weigh me every day, so I also know where I stand (185 lbs.). Need to stay in touch every day. I bought my plane ticket for Ireland. I will be gone on July 23 and return August 30th. You won't know it though because I will be on-line every day. Last night I heard a friend refer to Carb triggers as "Rat Poison"; an interesting observation. He has trained himself to have the rat poison "reaction" when he sees a Carb trigger food. Wow, I would like to develop that! So I am doing good, thanks for the message! How's by you?
    GREG

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    LOL, I like to refer to carbs as poison also. It makes you wonder why you would eat poison and does help change your mental mindset to realize that carbs are the enemy truly in your body. RAT poison is even a better way to say it cause I sure hate the big gnarly rats and in the South here we got some big'ums !!!! I use Cyanide. Would I voluntarily eat cyanide? Nope, so then why would I eat carbs if they are cyanide to the body Hey we gotta change the brain and references like this help us do just that!

    I don't remember you mentioning your medical troubles? I am so sorry you are fighting thru this and super duper happy the nurse dietician loves your choice of cutting the carbs to the bone! Way to go on that one and it sounds like you have a good prognosis happening so I just will continue to wish you the best results on all that.....and yes I do believe your near zero carb eating will help your body heal!

    Cool ya got your plane tickets. July 23 will be here before you know it I can't wait to hear of your adventures!
    AND YOU BEST start thinking about how you will handle LC over there. Another country is no excuse not to eat your extreme low carb eating There are ways to make it work any where you are ONLY IF you give it the respectful planning it requires

    Go Greg!

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    ZeroCarb, You really honed in on a area of concern, eating in Ireland. "Whatever it takes" There are stores there too and you can tell a waiter what you want if you stand up for yourself and your WOE! I'll be in touch every day as Ireland has almost full coverage with cell. As you said, it's about "changing the brain", that's the key and it is a problem philosophers and shrinks have been wrestling with for hundreds of years. For us, we know we have to have mental pictures that point us right! Then we have to find ways to bring up those mental pictures lots of times per day! The more the better. I am getting excellent care. The VA has been pretty spectacular. Had to rework the bathroom floor. That will take another week. Got a new backpack from REI and I am just tickled. How's by you? GREG

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    omg was typing longer post and lost it. BLECK!

    UGH

    I hate computers some days!


    OK basics were, what type of food situations? Pubs/restaurants you can say 'I want to buy XYZ only' and eat it. You have choices easily.

    On trail in another country.....you must find/buy/ask anyone where stores are to get what you need to eat on trail. Dried beef foods. Snacks like beef sticks. Tuna in pouches are ones without refrigeration. Be sure if your food options are limited you get your food into your pack come heck or highwater for your own control

    Many leave in good shape to vacay but come home slugs and 'having to restart' now cause they 'excused' their vacay as 'time off my their diet' and those are ones who have not truly adopted their lifestyle change eating as a true lifestyle. It is a pretend lifestyle diet change in their minds.....real people who do change will not give in no matter where they are and will FIND the way to pick the best options for their menu.

    So happy you are getting excellent care!! Happy to hear that and I know from what you are saying it seems that this is just a bump in the road you will overcome and get a positive outcome!

    Ahh REI Co-op is a great place to shop! Hiker type to the max here also.



    Think way way way back.
    Why did people hike? They did not! They hiked/walked far to hunt prey to eat
    Fat and protein are life. A veg/root they could eat was to sustain them and live til they could make that kill and thrive!

    I firmly believe the body WAS a ketone burning body first. Glucouse burning bodies (the BACKUP way to survive) was what nature gave us to make sure humans had a chance to survive. 2 ways to live but without 'real protein and fat' a body will never survive long term. That is why vegans/veggietarians must eat beans etc as their protein option or they WILL die. They all must have protein in there or they won't make it point blank!

    HEY NOW, just my observation and my thoughts, everyone's mileage will vary on these things, but old days cavemen died early because of no medicine. With medicine we can eat the junk and get put on prescriptions to fight all the bad our foods are giving us. If we had no meds, eating this all crap menu of what our food is today, heck we would be dying off like in our 30s easily!

    So meds changed the world on longevity. Food is what is killing us early but meds are the things that drag us along in a sluggy/carb coma/sickly life. All prolonged by meds.


    OK I best get off my rant here LOL but I truly say if you don't agree it is cool. Everyone has to find their own truths behind why they do what they


    better post this before I lose it HAHA

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    ZeroCarb, Thanks for the observation. Vacations and LC/NC are a troubling combo. Because I am new to this adoption, I have to be on high, high, high ,high alert. On the trail I eat canned chicken and vegetables. In town I eat meat and broccoli, chased down with much cappuccino! The keys for me will be 1) my daily contact with this forum and my OA friends, 2) A plan, a trigger list and a "Whatever it Takes attitude. Can't say enough for that. Going to a large group meeting for OA beginners this afternoon. I know I will get some good vibes there. I will bring up your vacation thoughts and be open for feedback. GREG

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    I think it boils down to your personality. In that are you 'an excusable, allowed eating off your chosen lifestyle' while on vacay or are you the type that wants to hold this way of life since allowing the carby junk back in for vacay for most of us PROVES to be a monster struggle to get 'back on plan' and in the good body groove again. A lot of people can not get 'back on plan' and flounder horribly, I was one of those people LOL

    So the 'know thy true self' and what it takes for you and move accordingly thru your entire life adventures is a key to making it work for each of us.

    Again, no matter what we all say, one must know thyself thru it all. Get the nuggets of what advice is given that apply to us and if we are the type that MUST hold true to 'no matter what' cause it is what our bodies require, like me on this one, then you do what it takes and get thru it smiling big cause you were true to what it takes for you and your plan.


    It is 1000% about you. Not one other person

    Once we get that in full truth we can move forward in good for form what it takes for us personally.

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    Greg, Several years ago, traveling in England, I ate a LOT of bunless burgers in pubs. Not as appetizing as other meals, but it got me through. If you are in a regular restaurant talk to the waiter, they usually help. England and Ireland are a lot easier for our way of than most people think.

    There is a lot of research about cancer and sugar now. Saying that sugar may feed cancer cells. So you are giving your cancer a double whammy, chemo and no carbs. Whop the heck out of it!

    Good for you having two groups to support you OE is a great group. Oh, and 185? How much more do you want to lose?
    I am Arlene and Dr Mary Vernon says it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaquSijXJkQ for me. I used to stand under my plum tree waiting for the fruit to ripen and fall, now I stand near a coconut tree.
    "Let me have men about me that are fat, sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights. Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous." William Shakespeare ++++++++++++ I pray, let me one of the dangerous.

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    Aradasky, Thanks for the suggestions, I agree. No chemo here, just hormone therapy and radiation. I have excellent MDs. The VA has been fantastic. I think, as you, that sugarlessness (word?) has many known and unknown benefits. The more the merrier! Contact is key for me; OA and this forum rock! I have been back now about 8-ten days now and already feeling some good affects. Important for me to eat three times a day with no snacks. My goal is to get back to my best weight ever (160lbs. Army) before I croak! That will be many years away. My spirits are good and I am grateful to both you and ZeroCarb. Disappointed I got off the path. Coming to understand why and changing. That's key! Keep moving forward! GREG
    PS. Being honest helps!
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    Greg so glad you are so positive and getting fab support on the med issue. That is a biggie right there when you feel like the treatments and more are a great step forward and you aren't floundering with med situations that aren't working and such. Happy happy for you that I think you are one who can come out of this in great shape in the end thru the battle!!

    everyone gets off the path at some point cause it is all about learning what it takes for us personally.

    I read tons of posts, threads about 'what to do' to change and more and some meant nothing to me even tho I tried this 'great' tip and such and it never worked for me. It is all about finding those few sweet spot tricks/tips and more that suit you personally. Sometimes we have to go thru alot of them to find our perfect spot

    But once we find it, oh boy the skies the limit on how well we progress forward!!

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    ZeroCarb, Thanks, you are endlessly positive and I appreciate that you emphasize the personal aspect. Find what works and don't let go! Greg

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