Low Carb & Atkins Diet

Evrrdy · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: Do we have any South Beachers?

Hi, all..

This board just looked so lonely with no posts on it, that I had to take away that big 0. ha ha..

Anyways, my mom started South Beach two days ago. I tried to call her to find out how it was going, but she was at working. I keep forgetting that her schedule rotates with every other weekend. Silly me.

She had previously tried Atkins, when I came down for summer vaca two years ago, and then contemplated it, when I moved back last summer, but it just didn't seem to work out for her. I know why though. It's because she felt absolutely restricted and when you tell her she can't have this or that, she wants it that much more and will just throw in the towel. It was really sad, because the month that I was with her on vaca, she lost about 15lbs.. **ofcourse, I was making all her meals and doing all the grocery shopping**

I think, as I don't really know because I haven't read the book, but on preliminary research,, it sounds like something we may be able to incorporate in the later stages of Atkins.. you know, the whole good fats/ good carbs routine? After all, we are supposed to reduce our fat intake as we increase our carbs, right?

What's your opinion?

LunaCat · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject:

My doc has something against Atkins long term. He is ok with it in short but recommended I switch to south beach as my way of living after I met goal. I borrowed the book from a friend and scanned it a bit. I found it a little harder to follow than Atkins yet it seemed relatively the same. If I remember correctly, S.B. allows fruit sooner. It is very hard to try and switch because you tend to memorize your diet as you go along.

rcajunprincess · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:

I work with quit a few people who have done very well with Southbeach. As a matter of fact 2 of them even exceded there goal weight. So Luna I'm sure that you will also do well with SB.

rcajun

Evrrdy · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject:

Totally agreed Luna,, after doing this for so long, it's hard to switch..I've found it's mostly because it's so ingrained in my head that I pick up other foods, read the label, regardless of what the other diet says,, and say to myself.. nope too many carbs.. lol..

but I guess for someone that has transitioned through all the stages, it would probably help with the learning process...

RCP,,

it's great that you know people doing this and succeeded. Success is all that matters no matter what plan someone chooses.. I talked to my mom last night and finally got to ask her how it was going... her answer was: Don't ask... I was shocked and sad for her... I thought she was going to tell me she quit.. after only a few days,, less than a week... but she said.. "I'm doing it... but I don't like it"... I just don't know what to say to her.. It's really frustrating.

Guest · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

Has your mother ever had to diet before? I know many people who are now dieting for the first time in there lives and it's really hard for them. No one knows how to diet better than fat people. Skinny people have no clue as to what to do or even where to start.

But the good thing is that she is sticking with it. I wish her all the luck. Maybe her attitude towards the diet will change as she sees her progress.

rcajun

Evrrdy · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:27 pm Post subject:

No, RCP,,

She is a "professional dieter".. I think that's the problem. She views all food choices as a "diet" rather than a way of living/eating. She was also raised in the mentality that a pill will fix it... When I was a kid, Dr's were still prescribing "black beauties" as a weight loss pill... can you imagine? legal speed?.. lol...

She's had a weight problem all of "my" life... with a series of ups and downs in weight. Never what you would call a "long term" success. When I was in my teens, was about the longest, lasting for about 3-4 years.. but then with life circumstances it changed again... I can't blame her for her weight, because I understand the things that "caused" it, as far as life's little moments... but I'm just so worried about her that I try to be supportive and help her find a plan that helps.. at the same time, I get really aggravated to the point that I "want" to say mean things... I never do,, but I just want to scream sometimes..

Her legs hurt all the time, she has back problems and her health is steadily deteriorating.. she comes to me and says "why do you think this is happening?"... what can I say... it's simple mom... lose some weight,, even if it's only 20lbs.. it will help... *I have said this.. it put her in tears.. I wasn't being mean, and tried to explain that to her.. but it didn't help any.. not only had I hurt her feelings by trying to be honest.. but it hurt me too, because I hurt her** Crying or Very sad

I just want to help her.. and I obviously don't know how..

Trying2 · Senior Member Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 554

Can you get her to start walking? That would help more than anything - the legs, the back, the health, maybe even the weight. If she could work up to 40 minutes a day, it would make such a difference. It's amazing the ills that can be cured by walking regularly.

My mother had problems with leg cramping (peripheral artery disease). She was told that the only thing that would help was walking, but she wouldn't do it because in the short term it hurt, even though in the longer term she would end up with less pain if she kept up the exercise. After a while she could barely walk. My husband was in the same situation but found a different answer: he ended up as a long distance hiker - with no more leg cramps.

Guest · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:04 pm Post subject:

You know my mom was the same way. Always on a diet, but she never stuck to any of them. In February she had gastric bypass surgery, and it has done wonders for her. I was her support while she went through her emotional counseling for eating. She always asked me the same question your mother asks you "why do you think this is happening?"... and I never knew what to say to her until one day I realized that she had been internalizing everything in her life. Her past her present and even her fears of the future. My mother has always put others before herself, so before she decided to have the gastric bypass she asked me again (after another failed attempt at dieting) "why do you think this is happening?"..., and I looked her in the face and I said "I love you very much, and I know that you love me very much, but this is happening because you don't love yourself enough. You don't love yourself enough to want to take care of yourself. I told her that she was just as worthy of her love as we were and more so because now that her kids are grown up and taking care of them selves she should be enjoying life, but instead she was worrying about the sores on her legs opening up again or the fact that she couldn't walk from the living room to the bathroom without gasping for breath. I’m not saying that your mother should have surgery, I’m just suggesting that maybe in some ways your mother is just like mine, and she just needs someone to help her realize that she is worth it. She is worth every minute of every day that she thinks about caring for herself.

rcajun

liz - the retread! · Guest

That was a beautiful post! We all need to love ourselves as much as we love others.

My mother has gone the opposite direction, however, with her weight. She barely eats. She is as thin as a rail and her butt is just boney. When she comes to visit I always prepare a lot of healthy food, and send her home with a BIG care package. She says she eats it, but she just won't put on any weight.

I never gave it a lot of conscious thought about this before, but I am sure she does not like herself, much less love herself. I have discussed her health problems with her, including her anorexia, and she always seems to agree, but she won't do what she knows she needs to do to improve her health. Parents are everybit as frustrating as they say their children are! I feel like I have to be her parent and harp about her eating. But since it does no good, I have stopped involving myself and am letting her take her chosen path. She may die sooner, but it will be of her own decision. She really gets mad at me when I tell her she is depressed and should see a doctor.

It's really weird. She used to actually be overweight just a few years ago.

Self-love. That is a really good thing to have. I am teaching my children to love themselves by hugging themselves and saying "I love me!"

whenson · New Member Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 1

Amen to that. It's so easy to get down in the dumps while trying to lose weight. I spent over 20 years flying in the Air Force and had strict weight and fitness requirements. So fluctuations in both weight and fitness became a way of life for me. I've felt down quite a bit at times when I gained weight. I'm what has been referred to as a professional dieter - and that's not good. I've had success with low-carb diets but have problems maintaining weight. Sometimes supplements have been helpful.

Susannaj4 · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

We need a moderator in here. I just started South BEach.

LavendarMandy · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:

Im switching to phase 2 of southbeach Ive lost 60 pounds off Atkins I have 20 more pounds to my goal weight. I need more info on it and you cant find much on the web soo Im going to go buy the book. Smile

Happy Low carbing
mandy

Evrrdy · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:

Hi Mandy,

I actually went an bought the book also, after finding out there was no "free web info". I haven't had time to read it yet, with work/school/kids/home/husband and on and on.. lol.. but I actually think that I do eat more in that style now after doing this so long.

I'll let you know and hopefully be more informed very soon!!

Good luck!
Lisa

racnna · New Member Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 11

BriteWingz · Senior Member Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 414

You do realize that no one has posted in this thread for two years, right? They may not even be around right now to know you are replying to their posts;)

bluehex · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:32 am Post subject:

Plus, if you read the book carefully, you'll see that there is absolutely no difference between South Beach and Atkins maintenance phase. So, all you have to do is cycle through Atkins as intended....

liposuctionguide · New Member Joined: 30 May 2009 Posts: 1

I started the South Beach Diet yesterday, and I am not hungry at all, but I am SO nauseous.